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whirlingskirt

01-29-2003, 01:09 PM

Do any of you have any experience on "cumming on demand"?

I find the topic very fascinating and would like more information.
If i played with you for an hour or so (off and on) then granted release when i say "NOW", would you be able to do it? If not, there would be no more chances, must be you didnt really want to cum, hm?

Or...if i played with your cock and balls until you were good and hard, then began with a single finger stroke--and whispered "cum for me when i count to 3...", could you?

Would this eventually be a method to train you to cum spontaneously? (on demand).

I would be interested to know---if you ARE able to do it, how you were trained, how long it takes to perfect the technique, and your reaction to it.

Thanks , in advance for your thoughts :)

spankme

01-29-2003, 01:54 PM

This is an intriguing question. i would like to know the answer as well (so would my beloved Vanilla).

When i was younger, i had the typical male problem of cuming before demand. This does NOT contribute to good marital relations. But over time i learned to practice self-restraint and exercise control (though i sometimes wonder if this development was the root of my interest in ... or fetish for ... being denied) ... is having someone else control your orgasm the logical extension of developing self-control?

Now, i wish that i could cum on demand. i love to please 'nilla. i would be satisfied to give her a whole bunch of orgasms and not cum at all (well, not every time we make love, anyway). But sometimes she reaches a point where she has had enough and wants me to stop, but also wants me to cum. [The need for closure, the need not to feel guilty or selfish ... these are her emotions, and the fodder for a different discussion.]

Anyway, as the compliment to not cuming, it would be great to be able to cum on demand. So far this hasn't worked. i, too, will be very interested in how this trick can be achieved (if it can).

spankme

ps. i do have one "positive" experience with cuming on demand. But i've decided not to respond spontaneously; you'll just have to demand that i tell you about it. (lol) -- spank

wt1262001

01-29-2003, 03:08 PM

Do any of you have any experience on "cumming on demand"?

Well, i have tried PCMistress on some occasions and it is kind, it gives me 5 seconds to cum and the word says "CUM NOW", and then i beat furiously to cum. After 5 seconds, i would lift my hands away from my cock.

If i played with you for an hour or so (off and on) then granted release when i say "NOW", would you be able to do it? If not, there would be no more chances, must be you didnt really want to cum, hm?

Well, i would doubt that i would be able to cum right @ that particular time when You said "NOW!" unless of course i am @ the edge of an orgasm.

if i played with your cock and balls until you were good and hard, then began with a single finger stroke--and whispered "cum for me when i count to 3...", could you?

hmmm .. single finger cumming is very tough, unless one is really really close to orgasm. i once tried cumming with a single finger, it took me quite a while and quite a lot of friction to reach the point of orgasm, after reaching the point, the orgasm would be fingers away. :twisted:

Would this eventually be a method to train you to cum spontaneously? (on demand).

Well, it would be a good method, but it would take much time and patience for both P/parties.

I would be interested to know---if you ARE able to do it, how you were trained, how long it takes to perfect the technique, and your reaction to it.

For me, <points to myself> i am not really sure how long it would take. As for my reaction, it would be quite interesting to take it up.

:twisted:

MistressKytten

01-30-2003, 09:44 PM

The orgasm on demand is "mind over matter" as never before. An orgasm is very much controlled by your mind. I have successfully commanded toy to cum using our own special word. He is rarely given the chance to cum and it is always after a long teasing session when I choose to surprise him with an orgasm. Once I give him the chance, there is no more stimulation - he must cum right then. He is usually successful, but there have been a few instances where he has not been able to cum after I say 'the word' without further stimulation. Then he must wait until the next time I choose to be generous, but I make sure to tease him much longer before I end our session!

Miss Kytten
:)

MugzyBrown

01-31-2003, 12:36 AM

i am far too mental to be able to do that. :-)

billsparks

02-01-2003, 12:48 AM

It's possible, I've done it ... but it's not easy. A count is usually more manageable like "ok, ready, on five .... 1...2...3..." etc.

When I was younger I dabbled with hypnosis, not for sexual reasons, just for curiosity's sake. I got quite good at it, and can generally hypnotise most people now. Since, i became involved in T&D I have been thinking about how successfully you could combine the two.

If you made someone cum on command while hypnotised, using some key word... that word would become EXTREMELY powerful, the trouble is that the act of ejaculate might jolt the subject out of a hypnotic state.

Any Hypnotherapists in the room?

billc393

02-01-2003, 03:25 PM

I've been interested in the idea of combining Hypnosis with sexual play for some time now... unfortunately I've never found any practitioners who would help my wife and I in that respect.

I'd love for her to be able to cause my body to respond to her 'words', be it becoming erect simply because she whispered the trigger in my ear at dinner, or cumming on demand or anything in between... it seems like it holds such great possibilities!!

I'd love to hear from anyone who has tried this with any level of success!

-bill

MistressKytten

02-01-2003, 10:02 PM

Well, bill.......I can 'trigger' an erection in my pet by whispering a single word in his ear at anytime and that has nothing to do with hypnosis!

Miss Kytten
:)

billc393

02-02-2003, 02:29 PM

Well then I'm just gonna have to work harder at achieving that for my wife... any suggestions to help us in this?

-bill

MsDominique

02-15-2003, 04:36 AM

I have found that I can condition someone to cum on command, takes some work, but if they know that once you hit "5", they won't get another chance for a week or so, that's a good motivator, LOL. I use a counting system, going up to 5, sometimes doing it so quickly they never hear anything but 5 come out of My mouth, sometimes doing it slowly enough even a dry granny could cum.

As far as hypnosis goes, there are some hypno-dommes out there if you do your searching. At this time I can't personally recommend anyone-I sent a slave to one a few months ago and she ended up being a disaster.

I am learning hypnosis-but still pretty far away from actually putting it into use, LOL.

02-16-2003, 06:32 PM

i have found that hypnosis works for me, a trigger word can be learned which when said causes you to cum instantly.

i found the hypnosis training audios that i use at http://www.warpmymind.com (see mp3 trigorgasm.mp3)
this mp3 as well as a lot of other interesting slave training and fetish mp3s are all free, i have found other hypnodommes but they all seem to concentrate on getting you to buy more and more hypnosis products rather on the "hypnotic domination experience".

The mp3s at warpmymind are recorded with a male voice but implant a trigger which can be used by a Mistress, this means that any Mistress could use them :P .

If a slave is not used to hypnosis then i guess it may be necessary to train entering trance with general trance inductions.
These can also be found at above site.

i had to listen to the mp3s a few times before the worked, and the trigger doesn't always work - but more often than not. It of course helps if i have been put in the right mood first :wink:

i think that the author is also intending to write a script such that the triggers (for orgasm for instance) can be used on IM, :idea: this could make the chat rooms very interesting :wink:

hope you all find this useful,
and have fun experimenting

wuerstchen

spankme

02-16-2003, 06:54 PM

Dear wuerstchen,

The mind boggles at the thought. i didn't read into Whirlingskirt's initial post that she was looking for a way to get any of us to cum on her IM or chat command.

i never considered this an approach to web tease. It would be an incredible thing if it could be made to work. The thought of reading one of Whirly's thought-provoking message and all of a sudden going off upon reading the word "diabolical" ...

But she's such a sweet lass. Can't imagine that was here motive.

spankme :twisted:

whirlingskirt

02-16-2003, 07:17 PM

The thought of reading one of Whirly's thought-provoking message and all of a sudden going off upon reading the word "diabolical" ...[/color]

But she's such a sweet lass. Can't imagine that was here motive.

spankme :twisted:

LOL @ SpankMe!
I think the mystery of mind control/hypnosis as it pertains to cumming on demand pales in comparison to the brave (!) endurance and training that makes t/denial so fun for a Dom : If i control his mind, then he feels no frustration or turmoil or toment of free will.

Spank is right that i had no intention of concockting :wink: a 'diabolical' scheme to release ANYONE's cum!
Negotiation is not an option. Void where prohibited.
(wicked laughter)

spankme

02-17-2003, 11:54 AM

Dear Whirlingskirt,

To quote Groucho Marx, "Say the secret word ..."

Oops. Gotta go clean up. LoL

spankme :lol:

whirlingskirt

02-18-2003, 01:32 AM

billc393

02-18-2003, 02:10 PM

I'm hoping my wife will learn enough to try it on me!!

As someone who's been hypnotixed on several occassions (in a non-sexual context) I think it has wonderful possibilities!

-bill

MsDominique

02-20-2003, 06:38 PM

sometimes doing it slowly enough even a dry granny could cum..

LOL @ That!!! :lol:

I am learning hypnosis-but still pretty far away from actually putting it into use, LOL.

Hypnosis seems scary to me. Seems like it would take alot of confidence and responsibility to control anothers 'sub-conscious' mind. When will you know if or when you will want to try it on a sub?
BillC....?
BillSparks...?
Wuerstchen....?

Will you tell us more about this phenomena :?:

Well, I have a very willing guinea pig in one sub, and he's fairly experienced with it, so we will try very light things at first, like the simple raising your hand in the air and cluck like a chicken hehe. Because he's so experienced, he will be able to tell Me what's going on. Not sure when tho...I want to go to a workshop instead of just getting a book, and I can't seem to find any locally that have planned so far as the summer yet.

02-20-2003, 07:15 PM

Hi MsDominique,
it was a pleasure chatting with You in Your chat room the other evening,
thank You for talking to wuerstchen. :D

It is of course also possible to induce denial with hypnosis,
either such that the subbie can't get a hard-on/excited or such that they can't orgasm, regardless of what he/she does.
i have also heard of more SM oriented hypnosis where the subbie can only orgasm when they have a but-plug in place or only get-off on pain, those aren't really my sort of thing tho'.
i think that it would be really fun to experiment with combinations of such control and "switching" such control on and off, also to combine with "more traditional" forms of T&D. :lol:

i wil be very interested to see the results of the Mistresse's experiments, i'm sure that You will have a lot of fun :wink: , and good luck in finding a workshop.

i believe that all hypnosis is a form self-hypnosis, so it will help alot if your subbie already has experience of such things, which it sounds like he does.

Good luck and happy hyp'ing

always Your obedient slave
wuerstchen
(German = little sausage)

MsDominique

02-21-2003, 02:04 AM

Oh I will definitely keep you informed...

My ultimate goal is to implant suggestions like you mentioned, so that they can't orgasm without a trigger phrase, on all of My long term boys-so that even the married ones can benefit from long term denial, yet still be intimate with their wives. I certainly don't expect a subbie to tell his wife they can't make love, so that makes long term difficult with most married subs. I can, of course, tease them like hell for 3 or 4 days before a session, though, rofl.

shots

03-04-2003, 10:48 AM

This is not an easy thing to do in my experience.
My Domme would like me to erect and cum on her voice command, although i've really tried, i haven't had a great deal of success :(

I was talking to a guy on the Vanilla & Spice forum at Sufferware who said that he used Tantric techniques to remain continent regardless of the sexual stimulation and that it should work in reverse, as it were. Maybe you could check that out.
Hypnosis scares me i wouldn't want to try that!

Maybe the best way is just practise and repetition, punishment and reward.
Will let you know if i ever master it....................